Where's my Chinese Soldier

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speedoguy wrote:
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password wrote:This thread loses a lot without a pic of your actual piece

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minoka3 wrote:
speedoguy wrote:
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password wrote:This thread loses a lot without a pic of your actual piece

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-this happens a lot with Shepards images and preveiws... jpgs are forwarded to the gallery prior to the show.... -the gallery, then puts it up on the preview. and they sell.... its just the nature of the beast... I got to the White Walls show and my purchase was not the same as the jpg on the preview.(in fact, I have not even opened my purchase so who knows what the hell is sitting in there!? lol :lol: ) I know some of the jpg preview images from the DC show were actual pieces from the White Walls show....(that were already sold). It is what it is.... its great if you like your new image more then the preview, not so great if you don't. - but, its tough to toss it back because Sheps stuff is so difficult to get.... ec
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speedoguy wrote:
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password wrote:This thread loses a lot without a pic of your actual piece



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You can always return it, buy the silkscreen on wood edition, and pocket the change:

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Please discuss:

Pic 1 is the image I thought I was purchasing. 2 actual HPM

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far less drastic than I was imagining from your description. but if you aren't happy with it, send it back
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mr Revs wrote:Missing the arrow, rise above, the obey giant eblem, and the lotus leaves.


I think I was pretty accurate
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Revs,

Not trying to drag up the rev thing. Just a little kick after your comment about people taking whatever they got from OG blindly. That was a little uncalled for. Some of us still keep a critical eye on the art and are vocal when we see something we consider sub-par.

Now that I can see your picture, I see what you mean about the missing elements. That said, you still have a very nice piece there.
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mr Revs wrote:
mr Revs wrote:Missing the arrow, rise above, the obey giant eblem, and the lotus leaves.


I think I was pretty accurate


i didnt say it wasn't accurate, i said its not as drastic....imo
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robotoil wrote:Revs,

Not trying to drag up the rev thing. Just a little kick after your comment about people taking whatever they got from OG blindly. That was a little uncalled for. Some of us still keep a critical eye on the art and are vocal when we see something we consider sub-par.

Now that I can see your picture, I see what you mean about the missing elements. That said, you still have a very nice piece there.


agreed, it's def different than in the picture and i see your point.

but revs man... you have to expect a dig or two (or 100) on your previous actions that you were proud enough to advertise!!! honestly every time i read a post you make, i come up with some way to bust your chops. but i refrain.
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I agree with robo here. While it is definitely not the piece that was advertised, it is an awesome piece. Keep it.
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Asides from the actual differences in the piece, or revs banter.

I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +
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mcostello wrote:I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +
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robotoil wrote:
mcostello wrote:I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +


The problem with that is not each piece is created at the same time. Everyone understands (and one of the reason so many people love) that HPMS are different, the source image is the same but there are different elements that are added to each one at the time of creation making each one feel very unique. While I understand Revs disappointment about not receiving the pictured one I think it is his responsibility as the buyer to ask the question about which piece he would be receiving.
While it would be nice for Obey to have provided actual pictures you guys need to keep in mind most of the work is created just before the show and might not have time in the rush of making sure everything is done to insure that all the pictures are 100% correct. Also this could be a case of WW getting 2 by the time REVS sees the preview list 1 already sold (the pictured one) and only the second one was left. The second one would have been made at a later date and that would be the reason for the different background.
When I bought my Strummer record from Levine I asked if I was going to receive the one pictured and they said that one was already sold and the one I purchased had yet to be made so I should expect something a little different.

Also do you expect Faile to take a picture of each of their prints as they also have different hand finishing techniques to them. Most people buy those with the understanding that they might get something a little different from the one pictured and so many people thats part of the excitement.

EDIT* I should add that the piece is still stunning and even though its not 100% what you expected I am sure you are still going to enjoy it very much. :)
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ok, i changed my mind, its drastic enough.... and i totally agree with what mcostello said.

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mcostello wrote:Asides from the actual differences in the piece, or revs banter.

I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +


i agree with the disclaimer but it's not possible to take a photo of every piece because not every piece is completed at the time of sale. i bought a record cover from the levine show and the one i got was the "one additional available" and was told on the phone that the piece hadn't been made yet and would take a little longer to get. BUT i was only told that AFTER i asked if the one on the website was the one i was actually going to be receiving.... when you spend that kind of money on a piece of art it's your responsibility to make sure you know exactly what you are buying - especially if you aren't buying it in person.

it would also be a nice gesture for OG to put more details in their store like edition sizes, what kind of print (screen or litho) and print size but we rarely ever get that.... hell, it would even be a nice gesture for places like OG and POW (POW doesn't even tape the end caps on the tubes) to use better packaging and tubes but we all know that will never happen.
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I see what you are saying about the difference Revs. Now I have another question, is yours a stencil piece? The one from the web site seems more like a screened piece. What medium is yours?
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robotoil wrote:
mcostello wrote:I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +

Exactly, that'd be ideal! But like others have said, the editions aren't always completed at the time of sale and photographing/editing/organizing the photos for a whole shows worth of images, plus all of the other pieces in the editions would take a loooong time... but they should post a clear disclaimer (stating something about hand-finished elements may vary drastically from piece to piece), at least, for sure.

MrRevs, I definitely dig yours more than the preview image (mainly because a few elements and areas that look better to me on yours versus the preview file photo, but it's all personal preference), but it's not mine, it's yours, so I'm sorry to see/hear that you didn't receive the piece that you were expecting/planning on receiving!

They are clearly very different (in the hand-finished details for sure), if I got it and was expecting the preview piece I don't have a clue what/how I would feel about it.

I hope your piece grows on you, man!
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so in the fall when one of us miraculously gets the #1 preview slot at the levine show. and can't decide between DOH 4 and DOH2 stencil collage because you love both pieces, you have first dibs, cause your #1. but you go with DOH 4 cause it has some nice texture from yen pattern in the top left corner, and shepard signed it on a check, cause we are all insane about this work and those details are what we get off on as a group. eff it. flip a coin and hope your piece rules on delivery day.

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I appreciate all the feedback. It is a great piece in the end for sure. I just liked the extra stuff on the preview image and a disclaimer would be nice. I sent an email to OG letting them know about my feelings on this transaction.
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Patillac13 wrote:
robotoil wrote:
mcostello wrote:I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +

Exactly, that'd be ideal! But like others have said, the editions aren't always completed at the time of sale


so they are selling og items before they are in hand, isnt that flipping, dont people get banned for life from og for that?
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speedoguy wrote:
Patillac13 wrote:
robotoil wrote:
mcostello wrote:I think thats irresponsible of the studio and the gallery.

They should spend the extra 2 min to take a photo of every piece in every edition, or make sure every buyer receives a clear disclaimer that their piece might be different.

It's a small gesture of courtesy and professionalism for a piece of artwork that is $7,500 +

Exactly, that'd be ideal! But like others have said, the editions aren't always completed at the time of sale


so they are selling og items before they are in hand, isnt that flipping, dont people get banned for life from og for that?


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If anyone has a pick of the one displayed at the show, I would love to see it.
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