Indian Pattern Set

SFSTRAT · Post by **SFSTRAT** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:07 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0487257226

Open to trading these for some Keyes work too.

SFSTRAT · Post by **SFSTRAT** » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:50 pm

23 hours left BUMP

smartussi · Post by **smartussi** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:53 pm

Attention!

This guy is a scammer.
Take note of his name on ebay and here and make sure to steer clear of entering into transactions with him.

I was the winning bidder on his ebay auction, he backed out of the transaction stating that he no longer had the prints and that he was in the middle of a trade with someone to get rid of them.
...so I was suspicious, I sent him a PM on here asking if he had another set available (excuse my shadiness here, but I was suspicious of this guy) and he replied telling me the buyer on ebay backed out and screwed him on ebay fees and that the prints were available for trade of any '06 or '07 prints or cash offers

Gigantico · Post by **Gigantico** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:02 pm

Seems like you're not the first one. GiantTarHeel had an issue last year with these:

http://www.forum.thegiant.org/viewtopic ... a&start=25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SFSTRAT · Post by **SFSTRAT** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:17 pm

ATTENTION!

Smartussi is a internet stalker.

The facts: Yes, I did back out of our eBay transaction because another forum member offered to trade me a print from 07' and then backed out. Unfortunately, I had already told smarty by this point that I couldn't do the transaction. I kindly explained to him the situation and told him eBay wouldn't allow me to cancel my auction with less than 12 hours left. I would have simply canceled it had eBay allowed me to do so. He continued to harass and stalk me online. This evident by his stalking me from eBay to here. He has done nothing but be shady (he clearly said this himself in the above message) and make rude comments and threats in the process. I have dealt with many people on here and EB and never once have had any complaints or problems with fellow members. If anything, I have gone to great lengths to help out people on this forum. An example of this can be seen when I went back to Pittsburgh and picked up several warhol prints and sold them to members at cost. All I asked for in return was an act of good faith in the future. Furthermore, as a seller on eBay, I have the right to sell or not sell an item. If its a problem, then it needs to be brought up with eBay and not this online community.

This is the message I sent to smartussi before he informed me of who he was:

"Unfortunately, the set on eBay was not sold. I began talking with another member who wanted to do a trade, but has since backed out. SO.....in the long run, I got screwed. eBay wouldn't let me close my auction, so I have to pay final value fees, and this member bailed out. I'm entertaining trade or cash offers. I'm really looking for Keyes work, or OBEY from 2007. Let me know your thoughts".

As you can see, I was completely honest with him, even before I knew he was the person from eBay.

Judge me if you want, but if anything. Mr. Smarty is being a DRAMA QUEEN!

smartussi · Post by **smartussi** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:58 pm

SFSTRAT wrote:ATTENTION!

Smartussi is a internet stalker.

SFSTRAT wrote:
This is the message I sent to smartussi before he informed me of who he was:

"Unfortunately, the set on eBay was not sold. I began talking with another member who wanted to do a trade, but has since backed out. SO.....in the long run, I got screwed. eBay wouldn't let me close my auction, so I have to pay final value fees, and this member bailed out. I'm entertaining trade or cash offers. I'm really looking for Keyes work, or OBEY from 2007. Let me know your thoughts".

As you can see, I was completely honest with him, even before I knew he was the person from eBay.

Judge me if you want, but if anything. Mr. Smarty is being a DRAMA QUEEN!

...but the set did sell. To me.
...and you at this point where trying to see if you could get more for the set than the aution ended at
I do not call this honesty

smartussi · Post by **smartussi** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:00 pm

...to add, I just brought this pyublicly to make sure you don't rip off or lie to anyone else who may be less informed on this board

Bonesy · Post by **Bonesy** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:05 pm

Dude youre unhappy with the price the auction ended at, learn a lesson use a reserve next time and complete the transaction. A completed ebay auction should be honored, its you that should be bringing the 12 hour thing up with ebay as you are unhappy about it. You listed them on ebay and are expected to play by ebay rules when doing so.

SFSTRAT · Post by **SFSTRAT** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:24 pm

smartussi wrote:
SFSTRAT wrote:ATTENTION!

Smartussi is a internet stalker.

SFSTRAT wrote:
This is the message I sent to smartussi before he informed me of who he was:

"Unfortunately, the set on eBay was not sold. I began talking with another member who wanted to do a trade, but has since backed out. SO.....in the long run, I got screwed. eBay wouldn't let me close my auction, so I have to pay final value fees, and this member bailed out. I'm entertaining trade or cash offers. I'm really looking for Keyes work, or OBEY from 2007. Let me know your thoughts".

As you can see, I was completely honest with him, even before I knew he was the person from eBay.

Judge me if you want, but if anything. Mr. Smarty is being a DRAMA QUEEN!
...but the set did sell. To me.
...and you at this point where trying to see if you could get more for the set than the aution ended at
I do not call this honesty

I never tried to 'get more'. if anything, I was hoping to complete a trade for something I wanted. However, the other member fell through on his end of things. As for pulling the auction, yes, I wanted to, but couldn't. I've never had to pull an auction before, so I didn't know about the 12 hour limit thing. Lesson learned.

smartussi · Post by **smartussi** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:04 pm

Then why where you unwilling to complete the transaction

bdavenport · Post by **bdavenport** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:25 pm

If it was on ebay, why were you trying to also trade it? Trade it or auction it, but you can't do both. Seems like once it is on ebay it is for sale. Any trade conversations really "should" have ceased once bids were received on the item. Doing otherwise indicates that you were never really serious about selling them and can have a negative impact on your reputation, as seems to be the case here.

Oh, and if you were exploring trades, adding a bump indicating the auction i ending soon to get more action on it is also a little shady.

SFSTRAT · Post by **SFSTRAT** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:38 pm

bdavenport wrote:If it was on ebay, why were you trying to also trade it? Trade it or auction it, but you can't do both. Seems like once it is on ebay it is for sale. Any trade conversations really "should" have ceased once bids were received on the item. Doing otherwise indicates that you were never really serious about selling them and can have a negative impact on your reputation, as seems to be the case here.

Oh, and if you were exploring trades, adding a bump indicating the auction i ending soon to get more action on it is also a little shady.

As I stated, I was offered a trade after posting that bump, but before I could end the auction, I couldn't. Lesson learned.

spagucci1 · Post by **spagucci1** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:45 pm

SHADY SFSTRAT! Good looking out smartussi!

SFSTRAT wrote: Lesson learned.

Yeah we learned about your shady dealings...... Not cool at all.....

jak88 · Post by **jak88** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:55 pm

Seems perfectly clear. You listed on eBay, you received a winning bid, you honor that bid at that price. Any offers for trade or cash after listing on eBay should be declined, unless you first end the auction early. If you did not or could not, you honor the winning bid. Period.

Website · Post by **admonkey** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:05 pm

SFSTRAT wrote:I never tried to 'get more'.

You sent this to me this morning:

j_pawlish1476 wrote:Regarding:
Indian Pattern Red 08 Fairey - Paster

Hey. Saw you were looking for these. I have the entire set (gold, red, black) the red and black are signed. I'm willing to sell the entire set for 375.00 Shipped. Let me know your thoughts.

Post by **ca77** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:27 pm

fail.

hundreddollarhorse · Post by **hundreddollarhorse** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:28 pm

that is awesome

bdavenport · Post by **bdavenport** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:53 pm

Just curious, you have said "lesson learned" many times in this thread. I am curious what lesson that was. Don't be greedy? Or don't get caught?

I especially like how, after having an auction end and a trade fall through, you then "offered" them for $100 more than the auction closed for. i think this is EXACTLY why ebay offers reserve auctions. This is great stuff. You should write a book "How to lose friends and screw people: Being unethical in an ethical world". Any chance you have of making this right, and by making it right I mean maintaining any chance of doing business with folks on this board, you should give the prints to the auction winner for LESS than the auction closed for.

Oh, and sorry about how you are getting screwed by ebay fees. Couldn't have happened to a cooler cat.

alwaysalx · Post by **alwaysalx** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:08 am

ca77 wrote:fail.

epic fail

Stone Age · Post by **Stone Age** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:37 am

Why hasn't this loser been lit up with negative feedback yet? Clown needs to learn a lesson.

alwaysalx · Post by **alwaysalx** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:39 am

can we stone him? please? please?

cybernigel · Post by **cybernigel** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:44 am

smartussi wrote:Attention!

This guy is a scammer.
Take note of his name on ebay and here and make sure to steer clear of entering into transactions with him.

SFSTRAT = j_pawlish1476 on ebeans = abbywilcox76 on ebay (at least at the moment)

slidingaround · Post by **slidingaround** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:34 am

Weak!

lepublicnme · Post by **lepublicnme** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:08 am

admonkey wrote:
SFSTRAT wrote:I never tried to 'get more'.

You sent this to me this morning:

j_pawlish1476 wrote:Regarding:
Indian Pattern Red 08 Fairey - Paster

Hey. Saw you were looking for these. I have the entire set (gold, red, black) the red and black are signed. I'm willing to sell the entire set for 375.00 Shipped. Let me know your thoughts.

oh yeah definitely shady !

I had some PM exchange with him about these prints...

back in Dec '08

SFSTRAT wrote: [...] I have had numerous offers that were well over 400.00 for the set. Including someone wanting to trade me a signed HOPE. Let me know your thoughts. [...]

Have a nice day vvanker !

XXXX

whyhoo · Post by **whyhoo** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:47 pm

woke up in the morning peculiar feeling, looked up and saw egg drippin' from the ceilin'...

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