WTB OBAMA $450

[toyroom]

Wow... today was the first time I checked this thread out.

Just figured it was kinda like, what they call in the construction trade....

"discussing the price of a 2X4"

[cybernigel]

is that a hundred dollar horse? (sorry)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stickee]

is that a hundred dollar horse? (sorry)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[noverflow]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

[robotoil]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I'm going to parse a little. It's not that he didn't own them, it's that that they weren't in his posession yet. Which is lame. He did have reciepts. He did pay for them. And he did intend to deliver. It's not like Theory was trying to cheat anyone.

[mrxscarface28]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I'm going to parse a little. It's not that he didn't own them, it's that that they weren't in his posession yet. Which is lame. He did have reciepts. He did pay for them. And he did intend to deliver. It's not like Theory was trying to cheat anyone.

Do you ever shut up?

Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

[robotoil]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I'm going to parse a little. It's not that he didn't own them, it's that that they weren't in his posession yet. Which is lame. He did have reciepts. He did pay for them. And he did intend to deliver. It's not like Theory was trying to cheat anyone.

Do you ever shut up?

Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

Why ask questions you already know the answer to? Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

Yeah, I see where you are coming from...

I think it's great that this prick was caught.

[mrxscarface28]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I'm going to parse a little. It's not that he didn't own them, it's that that they weren't in his posession yet. Which is lame. He did have reciepts. He did pay for them. And he did intend to deliver. It's not like Theory was trying to cheat anyone.

Do you ever shut up?

Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

Why ask questions you already know the answer to? Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

Yeah, I see where you are coming from...

I think it's great that this prick was caught.

I didn't really know the answer ... that is until now. Mostly I just wanted to see how long it would take for you to post a response. 12 minutes ... That's 10 minutes longer than I expected.

[robotoil]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I'm going to parse a little. It's not that he didn't own them, it's that that they weren't in his posession yet. Which is lame. He did have reciepts. He did pay for them. And he did intend to deliver. It's not like Theory was trying to cheat anyone.

Do you ever shut up?

Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

Why ask questions you already know the answer to? Just a rhetorical question ... Don't really need an answer.

Yeah, I see where you are coming from...

I think it's great that this prick was caught.

I didn't really know the answer ... that is until now. Mostly I just wanted to see how long it would take for you to post a response. 12 minutes ... That's 10 minutes longer than I expected.

Sorry for the slow response time. My call center was outsourced to India and I'm still trying to work the kinks out.

[lb1469]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I agree. Having someone pay for prints and then not shipping them as as expected in the implied terms of the transaction is pretty lame.

Kinda reminds me of some other situation

[admonkey]

Im just going to say.
The problem was not with selling a print

The problem was selling multiple prints he did not own.

This is not only lam... but illegal. how so? because he agreed to the terms and conditions of ebay. And you may not sell something you do not own.

I agree. Having someone pay for prints and then not shipping them as as expected in the implied terms of the transaction is pretty lame.

Kinda reminds me of some other situation

Please point me to Obey's terms and conditions for their sales.

I'm pretty sure I can point you to eBay's, directly. There's nothing implied about it.

You try to equivocate even while in the process of writing. Your "implied" and my "implied" will surely be two different things; I'd suggest staying away from conjecture.

[lb1469]

You’re a well versed writer. I’ll give you that. I always enjoy reading your posts.

However, I have to disagree that simply because Obey does not have their terms stated that those who purchase items on the site don’t have the right to expect either the merchandise they purchased or a prompt refund. Obey has provided neither. So far all they have done is take thousands of dollars from their customers and have provided no explanation as to if and when they will receive their prints.

Policy or not, it’s not very good business practice and not a very fair way to treat their customers.

[admonkey]

You’re a well versed writer. I’ll give you that. I always enjoy reading your posts.

However, I have to disagree that simply because Obey does not have their terms stated that those who purchase items on the site don’t have the right to expect either the merchandise they purchased or a prompt refund. Obey has provided neither. So far all they have done is take thousands of dollars from their customers and have provided no explanation as to if and when they will receive their prints.

Policy or not, it’s not very good business practice and not a very fair way to treat their customers.

Are you not expecting your merchandise?

I know I ordered an Obama print and received confirmation of its sale. I'm expecting it. I have no reason not to.

Obey has always delivered. I suspect they will again, particularly because I'm not on a ban list (to the best of my knowledge). So it's taking longer than usual. I'm in no hurry.

You?

[lb1469]

No, I’m not expecting one since I didn’t order one. I’m merely commenting on prior posts.

I’m glad you’re confident that you will receive your print and hope that you do as well as everyone else who purchased it for their collections.

As for the reason why one may suspect that unlike every other time, this time they may not get the print they ordered, well when a representative from Obey states that they are considering refunding all the orders or geographical areas, I think that’s reason enough.

[admonkey]

No, I’m not expecting one since I didn’t order one. I’m merely commenting on prior posts.

I’m glad you’re confident that you will receive your print and hope that you do as well as everyone else who purchased it for their collections.

I really hope that anyone-- and everyone-- who is dissatisfied with the shipping delay would take a moment, right now, to dispute the PayPal charge and force the process of receiving a refund. Please. Take matters into your own hands. Get your money back and get some balance back in your lives.

Maybe then, once the dust settles and it's known how many extra prints are available because of customer-cancelled sales, you'd have another chance to order one, lb.

[henna]

I agree. Having someone pay for prints and then not shipping them as as expected in the implied terms of the transaction is pretty lame.

Kinda reminds me of some other situation

That's rich.

[robotoil]

I agree. Having someone pay for prints and then not shipping them as as expected in the implied terms of the transaction is pretty lame.

Kinda reminds me of some other situation

That's rich.

Leo, totally. And I agree with APMonkey, people should vote with their wallets.

[alfonsosoriano]

this was a terrific thread! it had everything! action, intrigue, drama! i think it's kind of cool to see that the governing members of this forum have differing opinions. well done gents.

[extremeimages77]

this was a terrific thread! it had everything! action, intrigue, drama! i think it's kind of cool to see that the governing members of this forum have differing opinions. well done gents.

i just read this also for the first time....good stuff.....my two cents.....def. wrong for selling before in hand.

[admonkey]

Check out the feedback (guess which one I'm talking about):

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback

[rastapunk]

Check out the feedback (guess which one I'm talking about):

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback

Zing!

[stinkypete]

Check out the feedback (guess which one I'm talking about):

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback

Zing!

how does that be a neutral feedback as opposed to negative

[admonkey]

Check out the feedback (guess which one I'm talking about):

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback

Zing!

how does that be a neutral feedback as opposed to negative

Probably came to some sort of arrangement.

[stickee]

wonder if he got refunded or just lied about it then sold for a higher price when he saw the prices shoot up?

[tlh1005]

I wonder if the buyer could verify the seller's address through Ebay and Obey somehow. If Obey shipped the seller a print then she'd know the truth.