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Maybe they are fine art as in "D@MN!!!, That's some fine art. D@mn fine art, indeed"
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bdavenport wrote:I'm sorry, Newbie, what was the question again?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks... i did burst out when i read this.... :D ec
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fine art prints! if it's good enough for modern multiples, it's good enough for me!
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I agree with Comiconart and Easycraig on this issue. Prints are prints whether or not Shepard pulled the screens himself. Somebody burns/pulls the screens, just because Shep did it one day and somebody else did it a different day doesn't make it any different to me. But hey, that's just me.
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circa77 wrote:I agree with Comiconart and Easycraig on this issue. Prints are prints whether or not Shepard pulled the screens himself. Somebody burns/pulls the screens, just because Shep did it one day and somebody else did it a different day doesn't make it any different to me. But hey, that's just me.
agreed
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Did someone say they were looking for some fine-azz Prince?

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Gigantico wrote:Did someone say they were looking for some fine-azz Prince?

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LO freaking L!
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halopigg wrote:Does anyone think this argument will make our newbie friend switch hobbies?
+1 Can't believe this thread is so many pages long. Yawn.
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Shonquan wrote:
circa77 wrote:I agree with Comiconart and Easycraig on this issue. Prints are prints whether or not Shepard pulled the screens himself. Somebody burns/pulls the screens, just because Shep did it one day and somebody else did it a different day doesn't make it any different to me. But hey, that's just me.
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mose wrote:
Shonquan wrote:
circa77 wrote:I agree with Comiconart and Easycraig on this issue. Prints are prints whether or not Shepard pulled the screens himself. Somebody burns/pulls the screens, just because Shep did it one day and somebody else did it a different day doesn't make it any different to me. But hey, that's just me.
agreed
add another in agreement here. Not fine art, highly desirable prints in some cases (sorry not AK for me). From what I've read here, the fine art term is painted with far too general of a brush stroke imo.

In the end it doesn't matter - this conversation is like trying to list exactly which prints are "grails" and which are not. Its a personal thing and the application of the term itself does nothing to the value of a piece. Desirability in all its forms does that.
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gpt104 wrote:the fine art term is painted with far too general of a brush stroke imo.
Haha. Get it? Fine art is painted with a brush! Get it?
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Just for shits and giggles:

(Per google): Fine Art = Creative art, esp. visual art, whose products are to be appreciated primarily or solely for their imaginative, aesthetic, or intellectual content

Funny no mention of Shepard, interns, 18X24, pre 2000, screen printing.

Ya'll are more informed, educated, and up to date on these things. I'm probably missing something.
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Comic- the debate kinda got a little heated earlerand I hope there are no hard feelings. When it all comes down to it, we are all art enthusiasts so lets enjoy Shep's art and collecting it.
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easycraig wrote:
bdavenport wrote:I'm sorry, Newbie, what was the question again?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks... i did burst out when i read this.... :D ec
I think the thread stopped being about me a long time ago lol. It has taken on a life of it's own but has turned out to be pretty interesting. I am certainly a lot wiser!
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spagucci1 wrote:Comic- the debate kinda got a little heated earlerand I hope there are no hard feelings. When it all comes down to it, we are all art enthusiasts so lets enjoy Shep's art and collecting it.
It's all good. It may have gotten a bit heated at times, but nonetheless one of the more interesting conversations in recent memory.
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comiconart wrote:
spagucci1 wrote:Comic- the debate kinda got a little heated earlerand I hope there are no hard feelings. When it all comes down to it, we are all art enthusiasts so lets enjoy Shep's art and collecting it.
It's all good. It may have gotten a bit heated at times, but nonetheless one of the more interesting conversations in recent memory.

confession: i too am scared by spagucci's avatar 8)
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quote : confession: i too am scared by spagucci's avatar


^^^ agreed! every time i see that THING i think of the lead singer for 'they might be giants'.... lol :lol:


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circa77 wrote:I agree with Comiconart and Easycraig on this issue. Prints are prints whether or not Shepard pulled the screens himself. Somebody burns/pulls the screens, just because Shep did it one day and somebody else did it a different day doesn't make it any different to me. But hey, that's just me.
agreed.
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At the end of the day, beyond one's own personal love of certain images and periods of work, the market will determine value.

Shep will be treated as all other artists are treated, meaning the market will assess his overall importance ... and then which images, which formats and which pieces are viewed as more "valuable."

It won't matter a lick if I or anyone else here thinks a particular piece or era is "fine art" or not.
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easycraig wrote:...


quote : confession: i too am scared by spagucci's avatar


^^^ agreed! every time i see that THING i think of the lead singer for 'they might be giants'.... lol :lol:


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For the hell of it and out of curiosity, I took this tortured issue outside for one expert opinion ... I asked a VP in Sotheby's Prints Dept the following: Are signed edition screenprints considered "fine art"? Her answer in full ...

"Yes. Andy Warhol utilized the screenprint technique on canvas (these are referred to as his 'paintings') and on paper (prints). Other important contemporary artists such as Josef Albers, Chuck Close, Keith Haring, Jasper Johns, Ellsworth Kelly and Roy Lichtenstein (to name a few) have worked in this medium as well. We consider screenprints done in small editions to be Fine Art. However it should be noted that the screenprint process is also used in making commercial edition posters in which case, it would be considered more ephemera than Fine Art."

So, for Sotheby's at least, prints on paper are viewed as "fine art" provided they are "small" editions and not created as "commercial edition posters."

Now, how small constitutes a small edition?
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