New Print: PEACE BOMBER OFFICIAL ANTICIPATION THREAD

robotoil · Post by **robotoil** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:23 pm

PDC wrote:
marcobelt wrote:The whole thing is ridiculous. whether they wanted too make them available for purchase in that particular manner or not, they did. And forum members bought them. Mostly people that spent alot of time trying to get them, so why refund and start the whole process all over again.... if anything this time a smaller percentage of forum members are going to get their hands on them... why would they want it to go down that way....
I agree. Honor the purchases now that the dust has settled.
What's the big deal? People spent hours trying to give you their money.

There is nothing to honor. They never were for sale as far as I can see. People proceeded at their own risk.

ApfelGeld · Post by **ApfelGeld** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:24 pm

extremeimages77 wrote:part of my email from jaspr
Hi Jay,
Thanks for staying with it on this, I know it was tremendously
frustrating for you and for everyone involved. They never made it
onto the site because it was so jammed and we were hacked

(1st Post!)

Does he also say when they will finally go on sale?

whyhoo · Post by **whyhoo** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:26 pm

welcome!! what time is it in Germany?!

Ceriously76 · Post by **Ceriously76** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:26 pm

quote="extremeimages77"]

Does he also say when they will finally go on sale?[/quote]

I have heard Thursday at noon PST

Xpoc · Post by **Xpoc** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:26 pm

extremeimages77 wrote:part of my email from jaspr
Hi Jay,
Thanks for staying with it on this, I know it was tremendously
frustrating for you and for everyone involved. They never made it
onto the site because it was so jammed and we were hacked

So...we getting refunds?

robotoil · Post by **robotoil** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:27 pm

whyhoo wrote:
extremeimages77 wrote:part of my email from jaspr
Hi Jay,
Thanks for staying with it on this, I know it was tremendously
frustrating for you and for everyone involved. They never made it
onto the site because it was so jammed and we were hacked
"hacked" i believe confirms my suspicion... i can't see anyone using "hacked" to refer to using the right URLs... seriously - when has it ever been that the prints did not sell out in 30 minutes? someone has basically launched a DOS attack and that is what has led to all this frustration. the a-track example does not apply - in that case everyone was waiting for the print to show up for sale.

if they can script ticketmaster purchases... they sure as hell can script a zen cart purchase! or at least script up something that prevents anyone else from getting through.

ebay would solve this INSTANTLY.

I'd wait to hear what 'hacked' actually means to the author. Though Jason's post was pretty clear about what obeygiant.com thought about the exploits.

illicitly adv 1: in a manner disapproved or not allowed by custom; "He acted illegitimately when he increased the rent fourfold" [syn: {illegitimately}] [ant: {legitimately}, {legitimately}] 2: in an illegal manner; "they dumped the waste illegally" [syn: {illegally}, {lawlessly}] [ant: {legitimately}]

conartstudio · Post by **conartstudio** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:28 pm

Backpackpunk wrote:I will be the first person to stand up and say I buy every print I can because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road. At 50.00 per print they might take a day or 2 to sell out giving people a chance who are busy at drop time to get it later.

what you really meant to say is:
"you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road OR WHEN I NEED TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK"

so how did these "trades" work out for you?

http://item.express.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ ... xpressItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0179198428
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170628742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181898184
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170630509
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181917546
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0172487919

i've said it in the past and i'll say it again, i don't have a problem with people reselling their prints. they bought them, own them and can do what they want with them.... BUT don't come telling us that you buy every print "because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road", come on now, we're not stupid so stop acting like we are.

ApfelGeld · Post by **ApfelGeld** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:28 pm

whyhoo wrote:welcome!! what time is it in Germany?!

Half past 10 p.m.

extremeimages77 · Post by **extremeimages77** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:29 pm

Xpoc wrote:
extremeimages77 wrote:part of my email from jaspr
Hi Jay,
Thanks for staying with it on this, I know it was tremendously
frustrating for you and for everyone involved. They never made it
onto the site because it was so jammed and we were hacked
So...we getting refunds?

of the many questions i asked this was not one of them sorry

stinkypete · Post by **stinkypete** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:30 pm

ApfelGeld wrote:
extremeimages77 wrote:part of my email from jaspr
Hi Jay,
Thanks for staying with it on this, I know it was tremendously
frustrating for you and for everyone involved. They never made it
onto the site because it was so jammed and we were hacked
(1st Post!)

Does he also say when they will finally go on sale?

welcome from New Zealand ( 10.30 am!!) donnerstag

the_partisans · Post by **the_partisans** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:30 pm

spagucci1 · Post by **spagucci1** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:30 pm

fribhey wrote:
Backpackpunk wrote:I will be the first person to stand up and say I buy every print I can because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road. At 50.00 per print they might take a day or 2 to sell out giving people a chance who are busy at drop time to get it later.
what you really meant to say is:
"you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road OR WHEN I NEED TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK"

so how did these "trades" work out for you?

http://item.express.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ ... xpressItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0179198428
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170628742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181898184
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170630509
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181917546
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0172487919

i've said it in the past and i'll say it again, i don't have a problem with people reselling their prints. they bought them, own them and can do what they want with them.... BUT don't come telling us that you buy every print "because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road", come on now, we're not stupid so stop acting like we are.

Herr_E · Post by **Herr_E** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:32 pm

ApfelGeld wrote:

(1st Post!)

[/quote]

willkommen!
pm sent!

Bonesy · Post by **Bonesy** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:33 pm

The items were accesible through a publicly available url.

Actually the URL said the item was unavailable. You had to deceive the system to make it think it was available. You cant act like it was there ready for the purchase.

Its like hopping the fence at the kmart garden center to steal something and saying to the police "They left it outside!"

markfe390 · Post by **markfe390** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:33 pm

ebay no 12 hour process they will be released on time shep can refuse anyone who buys more than one....

Bonesy · Post by **Bonesy** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:34 pm

spagucci1 wrote:
fribhey wrote:
Backpackpunk wrote:I will be the first person to stand up and say I buy every print I can because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road. At 50.00 per print they might take a day or 2 to sell out giving people a chance who are busy at drop time to get it later.
what you really meant to say is:
"you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road OR WHEN I NEED TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK"

so how did these "trades" work out for you?

http://item.express.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ ... xpressItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0179198428
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170628742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181898184
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170630509
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181917546
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0172487919

i've said it in the past and i'll say it again, i don't have a problem with people reselling their prints. they bought them, own them and can do what they want with them.... BUT don't come telling us that you buy every print "because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road", come on now, we're not stupid so stop acting like we are.

What does selling 2003 &2004 prints have to do with flipping?

Backpackpunk · Post by **Backpackpunk** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:34 pm

spagucci1 wrote:
fribhey wrote:
Backpackpunk wrote:I will be the first person to stand up and say I buy every print I can because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road. At 50.00 per print they might take a day or 2 to sell out giving people a chance who are busy at drop time to get it later.
what you really meant to say is:
"you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road OR WHEN I NEED TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK"

so how did these "trades" work out for you?

http://item.express.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ ... xpressItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0179198428
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170628742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181898184
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170630509
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181917546
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0172487919

i've said it in the past and i'll say it again, i don't have a problem with people reselling their prints. they bought them, own them and can do what they want with them.... BUT don't come telling us that you buy every print "because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road", come on now, we're not stupid so stop acting like we are.

Thats right, because I bought that Bink, Danzig, and Fear Bush last week. I have already stated why I sold a bunch of prints, my collection goes way beyond just Obey prints, are you going to point out the prints I bought too?

spagucci1 · Post by **spagucci1** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:35 pm

Bonesy wrote:
The items were accesible through a publicly available url.
Actually the URL said the item was unavailable. You had to deceive the system to make it think it was available. You cant act like it was there ready for the purchase.

Its like hopping the fence at the kmart garden center to steal something and saying to the police "They left it outside!"

No its like hopping the fence and leaving money for the item...... Nothing was stolen..........

extremeimages77 · Post by **extremeimages77** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:35 pm

Bonesy wrote:
The items were accesible through a publicly available url.
Actually the URL said the item was unavailable. You had to deceive the system to make it think it was available. You cant act like it was there ready for the purchase.

Its like hopping the fence at the kmart garden center to steal something and saying to the police "They left it outside!"

hahaha

mr Revs · Post by **mr Revs** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:36 pm

fribhey wrote:
Backpackpunk wrote:I will be the first person to stand up and say I buy every print I can because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road. At 50.00 per print they might take a day or 2 to sell out giving people a chance who are busy at drop time to get it later.
what you really meant to say is:
"you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road OR WHEN I NEED TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK"

so how did these "trades" work out for you?

http://item.express.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ ... xpressItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0179198428
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170628742
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181898184
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0170630509
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0181917546
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0172487919

i've said it in the past and i'll say it again, i don't have a problem with people reselling their prints. they bought them, own them and can do what they want with them.... BUT don't come telling us that you buy every print "because you never know when your going to miss a drop and need to trade it down the road", come on now, we're not stupid so stop acting like we are.

That is exactly what I am talking about... This Backpackpunk just goes around putting down other people for things they did years ago when they did not have the best jusgement. In the meantime, he is selling prints all the live long day (which I don't have a problem with either) but to start blabbing about how much debt your in....C'mon, that is not anybody's fault but your own. I've been told by a member on this forum to stay away from this guy because he had a shady transaction with him claiming to not have received a print and then getting a refund. Something is rotten.

Bonesy · Post by **Bonesy** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:37 pm

spagucci1 wrote:
Bonesy wrote:
The items were accesible through a publicly available url.
Actually the URL said the item was unavailable. You had to deceive the system to make it think it was available. You cant act like it was there ready for the purchase.

Its like hopping the fence at the kmart garden center to steal something and saying to the police "They left it outside!"
No its like hopping the fence and leaving money for the item...... Nothing was stolen..........

Regardless, I think you see what Im saying.
(And I dont think the police would let you go)

Gigantico · Post by **Gigantico** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:38 pm

spagucci1 wrote:
Bonesy wrote:
The items were accesible through a publicly available url.
Actually the URL said the item was unavailable. You had to deceive the system to make it think it was available. You cant act like it was there ready for the purchase.

Its like hopping the fence at the kmart garden center to steal something and saying to the police "They left it outside!"
No its like hopping the fence and leaving money for the item...... Nothing was stolen..........

whyhoo · Post by **whyhoo** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:38 pm

Gigantico wrote:
spagucci1 wrote:
Bonesy wrote:
The items were accesible through a publicly available url.
Actually the URL said the item was unavailable. You had to deceive the system to make it think it was available. You cant act like it was there ready for the purchase.

Its like hopping the fence at the kmart garden center to steal something and saying to the police "They left it outside!"
No its like hopping the fence and leaving money for the item...... Nothing was stolen..........

indeed

PDC · Post by **PDC** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:39 pm

robotoil wrote:
PDC wrote:
marcobelt wrote:The whole thing is ridiculous. whether they wanted too make them available for purchase in that particular manner or not, they did. And forum members bought them. Mostly people that spent alot of time trying to get them, so why refund and start the whole process all over again.... if anything this time a smaller percentage of forum members are going to get their hands on them... why would they want it to go down that way....
I agree. Honor the purchases now that the dust has settled.
What's the big deal? People spent hours trying to give you their money.
There is nothing to honor. They never were for sale as far as I can see. People proceeded at their own risk.

I'm obviously biased on this because I spent a lot of time trying to get the prints.
The prints were said to be released on Tuesday and the technique everyone used to get the prints is the same technique that a few of us use on a regular basis for Obey releases.
I claim ignorance. I didn't know the print didn't drop. I used the same process that I always use and was successful.
Honor the purchases.

whyhoo · Post by **whyhoo** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:39 pm

PDC wrote:
robotoil wrote:
PDC wrote:
marcobelt wrote:The whole thing is ridiculous. whether they wanted too make them available for purchase in that particular manner or not, they did. And forum members bought them. Mostly people that spent alot of time trying to get them, so why refund and start the whole process all over again.... if anything this time a smaller percentage of forum members are going to get their hands on them... why would they want it to go down that way....
I agree. Honor the purchases now that the dust has settled.
What's the big deal? People spent hours trying to give you their money.
There is nothing to honor. They never were for sale as far as I can see. People proceeded at their own risk.
I'm obviously biased on this because I spent a lot of time trying to get the prints.
The prints were said to be released on Tuesday and the technique everyone used to get the prints is the same technique that a few of us use on a regular basis for Obey releases.
I claim ignorance. I didn't know the print didn't drop. I used the same process that I always use and was successful.
Honor the purchases.

i will hop in that boat with you and PADDLE!!!